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	<title>Comments on: Iraq&#8217;s endogenous institutional inertia</title>
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		<title>By: Tom Friedman channels Jack Santucci &#171; Democracy and Society</title>
		<link>http://democraticpiece.com/2009/10/16/iraqs-endogenous-institutional-inertia/comment-page-1/#comment-4482</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Friedman channels Jack Santucci &#171; Democracy and Society</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 19:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jack Santucci, October 16, 2009 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://democraticpiece.com/2009/10/16/iraqs-endogenous-institutional-inertia/comment-page-1/#comment-4480</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack, that is a hunch well worth pursuing. The impact of list type on these sorts of outcomes is an under-researched area, for sure.

(&#039;Hypothesis&#039; is just an overly fancy Greek word for English &#039;hunch&#039;!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack, that is a hunch well worth pursuing. The impact of list type on these sorts of outcomes is an under-researched area, for sure.</p>
<p>(&#8216;Hypothesis&#8217; is just an overly fancy Greek word for English &#8216;hunch&#8217;!)</p>
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		<title>By: Iraq&#8217;s Electoral System &#171; Democracy and Society</title>
		<link>http://democraticpiece.com/2009/10/16/iraqs-endogenous-institutional-inertia/comment-page-1/#comment-4478</link>
		<dc:creator>Iraq&#8217;s Electoral System &#171; Democracy and Society</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 06:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jack Santucci, alum of the MA in Democracy and Governance program, has a good analysis of Iraq&#8217;s electoral system at the Democratic Piece. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Welcome &#124; Project on Middle East Democracy</title>
		<link>http://democraticpiece.com/2009/10/16/iraqs-endogenous-institutional-inertia/comment-page-1/#comment-4477</link>
		<dc:creator>Welcome &#124; Project on Middle East Democracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 21:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Democratic Piece has published an blog discussing the slow death in Iraq of  reformed electoral laws including open-list proportional [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://democraticpiece.com/2009/10/16/iraqs-endogenous-institutional-inertia/comment-page-1/#comment-4475</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Wilf Day &lt;a href=&quot;http://fruitsandvotes.com/?p=2316#comments&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;determined&lt;/a&gt; at your blog that the lists are flexible. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ihec.iq/content/file/cor_laws/cor_law_36_2008_elections_law_en.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This&lt;/a&gt; English translation of the governorate electoral law confirms what Wilf found at Reidar Visser&#039;s website. The law is a little vague, but I see nothing indicating that a candidate needs a minimum share of preference votes to move around the list (i.e. &quot;the candidates shall be re-ranked based on the number of the votes obtained by a candidate&quot;).

2. I do not know the extent to which party orders prevailed over preference vote-driven reorderings. I am trying to find more detailed election returns to determine, at the least, the extent of preference voting.

3. My claim about the undesirability of CLPR is based on the intuition that, in the presence of popular party leaders apt to make ethnoreligious campaign appeals, electoral rules reinforcing those leaders&#039; control of campaign dynamics create security dilemmas for voters. Even in divided societies, not every voter&#039;s first choice is the party most representative of his ethnoreligious identity. Call the performance-first voter Voter X. When Voter X has reasonable expectations that an ethnoreligious party representing another group may capture state power and use it to the detriment of people from his own group, he has an incentive to abandon his first choice for the party most likely to protect his own group.

I realize this is a working hypothesis that needs testing. I am thinking about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Wilf Day <a href="http://fruitsandvotes.com/?p=2316#comments" rel="nofollow">determined</a> at your blog that the lists are flexible. <a href="http://www.ihec.iq/content/file/cor_laws/cor_law_36_2008_elections_law_en.pdf" rel="nofollow">This</a> English translation of the governorate electoral law confirms what Wilf found at Reidar Visser&#8217;s website. The law is a little vague, but I see nothing indicating that a candidate needs a minimum share of preference votes to move around the list (i.e. &#8220;the candidates shall be re-ranked based on the number of the votes obtained by a candidate&#8221;).</p>
<p>2. I do not know the extent to which party orders prevailed over preference vote-driven reorderings. I am trying to find more detailed election returns to determine, at the least, the extent of preference voting.</p>
<p>3. My claim about the undesirability of CLPR is based on the intuition that, in the presence of popular party leaders apt to make ethnoreligious campaign appeals, electoral rules reinforcing those leaders&#8217; control of campaign dynamics create security dilemmas for voters. Even in divided societies, not every voter&#8217;s first choice is the party most representative of his ethnoreligious identity. Call the performance-first voter Voter X. When Voter X has reasonable expectations that an ethnoreligious party representing another group may capture state power and use it to the detriment of people from his own group, he has an incentive to abandon his first choice for the party most likely to protect his own group.</p>
<p>I realize this is a working hypothesis that needs testing. I am thinking about that.</p>
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		<title>By: Fruits and Votes &#187; Prof. Shugart's Blog &#187; Iraq&#8217;s list type (again)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fruits and Votes &#187; Prof. Shugart's Blog &#187; Iraq&#8217;s list type (again)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 16:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] discussion of list type for Iraq&#8217;s upcoming national election. And I offer some comments. At The Democratic Piece.  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: MSS</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 16:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After much deliberation, I thought we had concluded (over at Fruits &amp; Votes) that the regional assembly elections were not held under open lists, but rather under (minimally) &quot;flexible&quot; ones. That is, that the pre-electoral party list order usually prevailed over the preference votes.

Was that conclusion wrong?

Did (some) Iraqis take to the streets over the choice of open vs. flexible lists? 

Also, I do not consider OLPR to be a &quot;candidate-based&quot; (or what I term &quot;nominal&quot;) electoral system. And I think the discussion we had earlier implied SNTV, which is a purely candidate-based system (party votes being literally non-existent). In an open list, on the other hand, the list is the first criterion in allocating seats, and only afterward do the candidate preference votes come in to play. That is, of course, an enormously important distinction relative to closed (or flexible) lists. However, the basis of allocation under OLPR is still that candidates pool votes and a preference vote for one candidate may help the election of another of the same list. Thus it is meaningfully a &quot;list-based&quot; system far more than a &quot;candidate-based&quot; one.

I am not aware of any evidence that suggests that list type affects the extent to which the party system reflects ethnic cleavages. SNTV would tend to allow the representation (whether in a larger party or a micro-party) of very small (for a given district magnitude) ethnic divisions. But I see no reason to expect that the distinction between open, closed, and flexible lists affects the overall relationship of the party system to the cleavage structure. It might do so, but it is not immediately clear how, and I certainly do not think the political science research on this question is clear (yet).

I would also be very skeptical of claims that open list PR allows voters to select &quot;performance oriented&quot; candidates. Typically the margins between winning and losing candidates on a list are so small--at least if M is greater than about 6--that any connection between performance and winning is likely somewhat nebulous. 

Finally, security of candidates was certainly a reason given back in 2005 for closed lists. And closed lists are clearly simpler to vote and count, though I actually find that one of the least compelling arguments in their favor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After much deliberation, I thought we had concluded (over at Fruits &amp; Votes) that the regional assembly elections were not held under open lists, but rather under (minimally) &#8220;flexible&#8221; ones. That is, that the pre-electoral party list order usually prevailed over the preference votes.</p>
<p>Was that conclusion wrong?</p>
<p>Did (some) Iraqis take to the streets over the choice of open vs. flexible lists? </p>
<p>Also, I do not consider OLPR to be a &#8220;candidate-based&#8221; (or what I term &#8220;nominal&#8221;) electoral system. And I think the discussion we had earlier implied SNTV, which is a purely candidate-based system (party votes being literally non-existent). In an open list, on the other hand, the list is the first criterion in allocating seats, and only afterward do the candidate preference votes come in to play. That is, of course, an enormously important distinction relative to closed (or flexible) lists. However, the basis of allocation under OLPR is still that candidates pool votes and a preference vote for one candidate may help the election of another of the same list. Thus it is meaningfully a &#8220;list-based&#8221; system far more than a &#8220;candidate-based&#8221; one.</p>
<p>I am not aware of any evidence that suggests that list type affects the extent to which the party system reflects ethnic cleavages. SNTV would tend to allow the representation (whether in a larger party or a micro-party) of very small (for a given district magnitude) ethnic divisions. But I see no reason to expect that the distinction between open, closed, and flexible lists affects the overall relationship of the party system to the cleavage structure. It might do so, but it is not immediately clear how, and I certainly do not think the political science research on this question is clear (yet).</p>
<p>I would also be very skeptical of claims that open list PR allows voters to select &#8220;performance oriented&#8221; candidates. Typically the margins between winning and losing candidates on a list are so small&#8211;at least if M is greater than about 6&#8211;that any connection between performance and winning is likely somewhat nebulous. </p>
<p>Finally, security of candidates was certainly a reason given back in 2005 for closed lists. And closed lists are clearly simpler to vote and count, though I actually find that one of the least compelling arguments in their favor.</p>
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