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		<title>By: MSS</title>
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		<description>The only EU delegations elected by STV are those of Malta and Ireland, correct?

And I always say that Maltese and Australian Senate &#039;STV&#039; come with huge caveats. In Malta, the party with a majority of first-preference votes nationwide is guaranteed a majority of seats. (It is an almost perfect 2-party system.) Of course, that undermines one of the key advantages of STV: that you supposedly need not worry about wasting your vote on an unelectable candidate or party.

And in Australian Senate, &quot;above the line&quot; voting is practiced by over 90% of voters, which essentially converts &#039;STV&#039; into closed-list PR, undermining one of the other supposed advantages of STV: that candidates compete for support and voters decide how their preferences flow if their first-choice is unelectable.

OZ influence was felt in Fiji on this point: the AV system adopted there allows above-the-line voting. It was pretty much a disaster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only EU delegations elected by STV are those of Malta and Ireland, correct?</p>
<p>And I always say that Maltese and Australian Senate &#8216;STV&#8217; come with huge caveats. In Malta, the party with a majority of first-preference votes nationwide is guaranteed a majority of seats. (It is an almost perfect 2-party system.) Of course, that undermines one of the key advantages of STV: that you supposedly need not worry about wasting your vote on an unelectable candidate or party.</p>
<p>And in Australian Senate, &#8220;above the line&#8221; voting is practiced by over 90% of voters, which essentially converts &#8216;STV&#8217; into closed-list PR, undermining one of the other supposed advantages of STV: that candidates compete for support and voters decide how their preferences flow if their first-choice is unelectable.</p>
<p>OZ influence was felt in Fiji on this point: the AV system adopted there allows above-the-line voting. It was pretty much a disaster.</p>
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